Monark 14 ft upgrades

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Monark 14 ft upgrades

Post by water bouy » 28 Jul 2016, 20:51

Thought I'd start a thread for the boat a bought last weekend, a 14 ft Monark. My plan will vary as I go along. So far I'm only doing a floor and bench seats. It has rounded runners or stringers, whatever you call ems, 11 inches on center. Going to frame it with standard 2x4s and 2x2s and 3/4 exterior plywood, all coated with Titebond Ultimate. I must have read a hundred threads and decided I'll only use it for a few years anyhow so no need to spend big money and it needs the weight of wood. I'll take pics as I go. Already found a 25 Evinrude to replace the 9.9 Mercury. This little boat is rated for a 30hp. Planning to use a hole saw to match the ribs and if it lays securely enough I'll only need a few rivets or screws. I can't seem to find marine carpet anywhere so pontoon vinyl is the plan for now. You can see where the factory used vinyl on the shelf at the front.

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Post by water bouy » 29 Jul 2016, 14:50

Lumber and two $10 circular saw horses.

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Two inch od hole saw for 2" od ribs.

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Screwed two 2x4s on top of a 2x6 and mark for holes.

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Hole saws are wonderful things.

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Cut one 54" long, the most the benches will allow and tada, holes are not right. The rib centers are also 10" and 10 1/2" as well as 11".

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Measure and cut for each center.

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That's more like it. This will be an easy job. It may take forever though.

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The factory put a shelf behind the rear bench, probably for a gas tank which I'll leave as is for access to the drain plug, to pull wires and because of laziness.

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1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by uncndl1 » 30 Jul 2016, 08:51

Nice start on your project, keep is updated

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Post by water bouy » 30 Jul 2016, 14:53

Thanks kindly. While i was at Lowes I checked out their carpet with the rubber backing. Anybody recommend it? I got a couple more runners done today and decided it needs a casting deck at bench level after all. It'll have plenty of room underneath for a battery and whatnots and if I find it sits too high it'll be easy to take off.
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Post by oakchas » 31 Jul 2016, 10:47

water bouy wrote:Thanks kindly. While i was at Lowes I checked out their carpet with the rubber backing. Anybody recommend it? I got a couple more runners done today and decided it needs a casting deck at bench level after all. It'll have plenty of room underneath for a battery and whatnots and if I find it sits too high it'll be easy to take off.
I work at Lowe's... I went to boatcarpet.com. for my boat carpet.
The face weight on Lowe's carpet is lower than 16 oz.; at least what's available in our store.

I also purchased boat carpet padding from another source, bassboatseats.com... Just to cover the areas where the most traffic will be.

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Post by water bouy » 31 Jul 2016, 15:40

Thanks kindly. I ordered some tan and beige samples from bassboats. The other site only seem to have dark colors. I tried a piece of 3/4 plywood to see how it'll feel and it's sturdy as can be. The runners should keep it from shifting back and forth once it has a few surface screws.

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This layout would be ideal but I'm reluctant to take out the middle bench. Other than that the boat looks identical to mine.

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Another pic I borrowed from the internet.

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16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by water bouy » 12 Aug 2016, 16:54

Between work and rain i haven't gotten much done. Earlier this week a guy gave me a piece of 1/8" aluminum angle that looked good for the bow. Another guy put a bend in one leg so it's almost a Z shape. This is how the bow looks where someone had a piece of wood across the top.

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I want mine level with the top so I had to come up with a bracket. Cut the angle to length, notched it and tapped it with a hammer and block of wood until it curved, secured with clamps, drilled holes and secured with temporary screws.

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Should work well with 3/4" plywood covered with "silver sand" vinyl coming from Cabelas.

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Post by DaleH » 12 Aug 2016, 18:21

... plywood covered with "silver sand" vinyl coming from Cabelas.
Yes, gotta admit I prefer the lightweight and longevity (mine is 20-yrs old and still looks great) I get from marine vinyl versus that of carpet!
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Post by water bouy » 12 Aug 2016, 19:34

Yep, I bought a piece of carpet and changed my mind before I even unrolled it. When I cut the plywood and cover it, I think I'm going to lay it on the brackets and trace the bracket from underneath and then take the brackets off and put screws in from the bottom for a tidy look.
16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by water bouy » 13 Aug 2016, 16:29

Started the other side when I got home today.

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Template.

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First attempt. Curves aren't any easier for me to cut than straight lines. Should be enough room for a desktop computer, an old timey phone and maybe squeeze in a trolling motor. The boat came with a nice transom mount Minn Kota that I would like to put on the bow somehow since the bench looks close enough to reach the handle.

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16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by water bouy » 25 Aug 2016, 20:00

The 'silver sand' vinyl came today and it's identical to the shelf in the first pic. Also found some 3/8" monel staples at an Ace hardware so today I got busy coating the wood with Titebond Ultimate. The 25hp Evinrude I found needed more work than I'm capable of doing so I sold it on craiglist and put a deposit on a 1987 merc xd 25hp at a boat repair shop. This is my kind of fun.
16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by water bouy » 28 Aug 2016, 18:47

Added braces today.

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Then stapled the vinyl the way someone would who's never done it.

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So far so good. This IS going to take forever. I like how the Titebond did, it made the wood feel like hard plastic. Time will tell if it holds up. I got a gallon of it from Home Depot for $58. Already had a visitor who looked under the tarp to see if anything is worth stealing.

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16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
14 ft Lone Star w/15hp Evinrude sold

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Post by water bouy » 30 Aug 2016, 01:35

I came across some 11ft x 4ft x 1/4" sheets of aluminum tonight for $250 each but no pics. I'll call in the morning and see if they know what kind it is. Which grade is best for boats and does the price sound good? Also came across 40"x48" pallets not far from there for the same price.

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1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
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Post by Skiffing » 05 Sep 2016, 15:15

5XXX+ series is marine use aluminum. 6+++ series $$ and less malleable.

1/4" is very heavy for a 14 footer. Hull is only 0.10 "

I really like your project. Great job.

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Post by water bouy » 06 Sep 2016, 15:46

Thanks very much. After a lot of indecision I picked up a stack of aluminum planks off craigslist this morning for very little. I was reluctant to drive 50 miles but when I saw em I knew it was worth it. Apparently they're for picnic tables and such but these are 15ft long by 9" wide x 1 1/2" deep.

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I believe they're called 'extruded' which must refer to the design. It's lighter than plywood and they have grooves for traction. When I got back I cut a few pieces to see how it's going to look. Probably make them sit a little lower than they are now. He threw in four "extras" which will be enough to do the whole job. Just need to decide how to secure them.

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Now I'm wondering if it needs vinyl or not. Also thinking about opening the top of the middle bench for storage or a livewell and putting swim noodles under the floor.
16 ft Sea Nymph w/30 Johnson
14 ft Monark w/25 Merc XD sold
1994 Lowe 1605 w/50 Evinrude sold
14 ft Lone Star w/15hp Evinrude sold

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