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Re: Rivet size

Post by beagler1 » 03 Aug 2016, 21:02

Awesome! Thank you!! My aluminum should be in tomorrow so ill get er started!!


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Post by onthewater102 » 04 Aug 2016, 12:06

I didn't have good luck with those off the shelf rivets with the aluminum mandrels - they often snap before they really pull tight. I ordered aluminum rivets with steel mandrels and found them to be much easier to get tight. I believe the steel mandrels were also thinner than the aluminum for the same size (3/16) rivet, though I don't know if that resulted in thicker aluminum walls in the rivets or not.

http://rivetsonline.com/rivets-en/blind ... ndrel.html
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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 04 Aug 2016, 13:49

Also at every location you are going to put one rivet put 2 it will keep the 2 pieces of aluminum from pivoting around the one rivet.
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Post by sonny.barile » 04 Aug 2016, 22:02

I needed to pop two 1/4 inch diameter rivets recently and I bought that same gun with a 20 percent coupon. Works great........Good tool to own if your a tin boater.

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Post by beagler1 » 05 Aug 2016, 16:51

Thx for the info!!


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Post by beagler1 » 11 Aug 2016, 13:30

Ready to rock! Now just gotta get time to start this project!



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Post by onthewater102 » 11 Aug 2016, 14:05

Got enough drill bits????

Those are the aluminum/aluminum rivets I was speaking of earlier.
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Post by DaleH » 11 Aug 2016, 14:47

I find that by "sneaking up on the torque" (actually breaking point) on those aluminum body/aluminum mandrel rivets, rather than setting them FAST ... that one can get them pretty darn tight. They do not replace solid rivets by any means, but should be fine for sub-structure installs. FYI, on that Aircraft Spruce website, there's some guidance on the number of rivets per inch to hold the material used as needed for the designed sheer stress rating.
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Re: Rivet size

Post by beagler1 » 11 Aug 2016, 14:55

onthewater102 wrote:Got enough drill bits????

Those are the aluminum/aluminum rivets I was speaking of earlier.
yup got the rivets from tractor supply!! Figure if i break a drill bit id be pissed to go buy one cause i live in the woods and have to "travel into town" just to get anything lol.

Then if i break that many bits i rekon ill be pretty pissed off lol


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Post by beagler1 » 11 Aug 2016, 14:55

DaleH wrote:I find that by "sneaking up on the torque" (actually breaking point) on those aluminum body/aluminum mandrel rivets, rather than setting them FAST ... that one can get them pretty darn tight. They do not replace solid rivets by any means, but should be fine for sub-structure installs. FYI, on that Aircraft Spruce website, there's some guidance on the number of rivets per inch to hold the material used as needed for the designed sheer stress rating.
You mean going nice and slow before it pops?


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Post by onthewater102 » 11 Aug 2016, 15:34

I was using the squeeze riveter - not the two handed tool, perhaps that influenced my results.
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Post by Shaugh » 11 Aug 2016, 15:43

I seem to get the best results when I tighten the rivet just snug first, then open the gun and re-grip for the final slow pull. Don't be in a hurry. Going slow helps get them tight as possible.

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Post by DaleH » 11 Aug 2016, 16:09

Shaugh wrote:I seem to get the best results when I tighten the rivet just snug first, then open the gun and re-grip for the final slow pull. Don't be in a hurry. Going slow helps get them tight as possible.
THIS ... snug, then re-gripping or 'choking up on it' a couple times! Maybe its keeping the toolhead only a 1/16" or so from the pull that makes it tighter, i.e., less shaft under tension? But I find it works!
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