Are all portable fuel tanks crap now?

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Post by wmk0002 » 05 Aug 2016, 00:04

My 6 gallon tank finally began to crack after years of sun exposure. I've been looking online at 3 and 6 gallon tanks from Attwood, Moeller, etc and all sold now are the new EPA compliant ones that "self vent", and have terrible reviews. What's the best route to take? Try to find some new old stock tanks from before they created these regulations or buy a new one and install a manual vent or buy a new vented cap?
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Post by fishmonger » 05 Aug 2016, 06:54

I purchased a new EPA tank with no vent and tried a couple of solutions but eventually gave up. Now I just open the cap slightly and vent the tank.
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Post by DaleH » 05 Aug 2016, 08:15

Look at the cap on the new tanks, you'll see a membrane ... stick a needle through it ...
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Post by hipster dufus » 05 Aug 2016, 08:17

i have 2 3&6 gal. i just loosen the cap. though the needle in the membrane sounds like a good idea.

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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 05 Aug 2016, 08:55

Save the cap from your old tank.
I've been lucky at finding older style 12 gallon tanks on CL for cheap.
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Post by wmk0002 » 05 Aug 2016, 10:26

Appreciate it guys. I have been keeping an eye out on Craigslist too. I will also definitely save my old cap too, since it has the manual vent and is in good shape.

These EPA compliant tanks and gas jugs are totally worthless, and in fact, I spill more with them than I ever did with the old style because they are so slow and hard to use. Is there a black market for the old style lol?
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Post by surfman » 05 Aug 2016, 12:15

wmk0002 wrote:Appreciate it guys. I have been keeping an eye out on Craigslist too. I will also definitely save my old cap too, since it has the manual vent and is in good shape.

These EPA compliant tanks and gas jugs are totally worthless, and in fact, I spill more with them than I ever did with the old style because they are so slow and hard to use. Is there a black market for the old style lol?
I agree totally, they are harder to use and you spill more fuel with the lousy vent-less spouts.

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Post by gr8fullfred » 05 Aug 2016, 12:20

Not only boat gas tanks, but all of the new EPA complaint fuel tanks are total POS if you know what I mean. The design of these tanks is terrible, they spill fuel, don't work properly. I am always looking for the older plastic tanks at garage sales and the like and I even gather up the caps on broken ones I find for the others that inevitability have missing caps.

I also drill a vent hole if necessary and install a golf tee to plug it up.

I have no idea what the government was thinking here, but I wish they would stop helping me!

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Post by perchjerker » 05 Aug 2016, 12:40

you can still buy old style replacement spouts on Amazon and other places and retrofit your can with them
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Post by DaleH » 05 Aug 2016, 13:22

gr8fullfred wrote:... have no idea what the government was thinking here, but I wish they would stop helping me!
... wait until Billary helps :shock: you out ... like when she takes your guns away #-o
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Post by Ictalurus » 05 Aug 2016, 14:00

DaleH wrote:
gr8fullfred wrote:... have no idea what the government was thinking here, but I wish they would stop helping me!
... wait until Billary helps :shock: you out ... like when she takes your guns away #-o

The govt didn't build the tanks goofballs, if the private side could build a decent tank that met fed regulations we'd be fine.

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Post by wmk0002 » 05 Aug 2016, 14:44

I have a Cabela's 5 minutes from my office so I swung by over lunch. I ended up grabbing a 3 gallon Attwood tank that had a built in gauge for $50. I previously had a 6 gallon but it was overkill for my 9.9/15 hp motors. I think my old one was also Attwood so hopefully the old vent cap will fit. If not I will make my own vent.

FWIW, and I just remembered this, but instead of installing one of those little yellow pop vents you can instead use a valve stem and remove the core pop it into a drilled hole. Just keep track of the cap.
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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 05 Aug 2016, 15:21

My local Menards sells a replacement spout and new vent kit for $5.00. It's intended to refurbish an old gas can but can be used to modify a new gas can.
Just drill a 1/2" hole in the upper rear of a new gas can pop the vent in and your all set.
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Post by turbotodd » 05 Aug 2016, 23:49

I've used and sold most of the major brands and the only one worth buying is the Yamaha tank. OEM manufactured one. They are expensive. Their fuel lines are also top notch. I have a 3 gal tank that I'm absolutely tickled with. The fuel line is one of those old "recalled" fuel lines, exactly the same as the newer ones as far as material, flexible....sun doesn't fade them, fuel doesn't affect them much (that I can tell) and most importantly the primer bulb stays soft...can't tell you how many of the old lines I've messed with that are so hard you cant squeeze them!

I have not use any of the other OE tanks, they might just be as good as or better than the Yamaha...I just haven't used one (yet).

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Post by fishmonger » 06 Aug 2016, 06:32

Ictalurus wrote:
DaleH wrote:
gr8fullfred wrote:... have no idea what the government was thinking here, but I wish they would stop helping me!
... wait until Billary helps :shock: you out ... like when she takes your guns away #-o

The govt didn't build the tanks goofballs, if the private side could build a decent tank that met fed regulations we'd be fine.
Of course the government didn't build the tanks but they regulate the manufacturers on how they build them and that's the problem. I purchased a new Yamaha tank. I feel the quality is higher than the generic over the counter Walmart tanks but it still has the EPA regulated non venting cap.
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