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I was talking to a young man at George Winter park and he told me that there is a sunken barge in the Meramec just up river from Valley Park, I'm guessing between Valley Park and Castlewood. Anyone know anything about this?
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Gramps50 wrote:I was talking to a young man at George Winter park and he told me that there is a sunken barge in the Meramec just up river from Valley Park, I'm guessing between Valley Park and Castlewood. Anyone know anything about this?
The only one I'm aware of is where the Meramec dumps into the Mississippi. It's not totally sunken though. More like abandoned and in a condition of less than scrap. I'll ask around though.

I can't imagine a barge being up river that far unless it's really small. The waters under the VP bridge at 141 are very shallow. At most times of the year, you can't run anything except a jet through that area.
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Found this but it doesn't say where on the Meramec. If you look at the history of Valley Park it mentions trains and barge traffic. A friend of mine grew up out here and lived over where Meritz it now. He might know something too. The kids said that his dad told him that they use to dredge the river. Isn't there a sand & gravel plant off I44 past 84 Lumber, for some reason I want to say Simpson Sand and Gravel. I wonder if it a gravel barge? There are some small tugs in a cove by George Winter Park.

https://www.missourighosts.net/investigations05d.html

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https://extra.mdc.mo.gov/fish/watershed/meramec/landuse/

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I've been from Valley Park to Castlewood SP, and I don't recall seeing a barge. That doesn't mean it isn't there,I just don't recall seeing it. May be between Castlewood and Eureka(Route 66 SP). There is an area near Catawissa with sunken barges,just off the Meramec.
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There are a couple of old ones in an oxobow above Allenton. They have been there so long that they are full of dirt and have trees growing out of them. Always assumed that these were left over from some old gravel mining operations.

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The other night I started at Valley Park and followed the river up stream to the other side of Pacfic, using Google maps saltlelite view, and didn't see any barges. There were some spots were the angle was bad and you couldn't see both banks and the trees were full.
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That picture is just up stream from Castlewood slightly further than Sherman beach on the North side of the river. I have been there many times and I am not convinced it is a barge. It looks more like a locomotive than anything. Possibly an old tug boat or something. Inside it has an old boiler and everything. It is directly underneith a large concrete wall that if the water was 20 feet higher than normal pool, looks like a shipping port of sorts and is very close to the railroad tracks. The wall is built very stout and has large steel rings to tie barges off to I would guess. There is a dinamite shoal just down river that holds a lot of fish.

There is a steel barge on the Meramec about 50 yards upstream from the East bound lanes of HWY 44 on the East side of the river. Looks like the perfect noodling spot if it were legal. You can see it from the highway if the water is at normal pool up to maybe +3 feet.

Hope this helps. I'll take more pics next time I'm up there.

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This is the barge/locomotive

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20


This is the barge upstream from HWY 44

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20

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bulldog wrote:This is the barge/locomotive

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20


This is the barge upstream from HWY 44

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20

I hope this works.
They worked. I have been by the one by I44 a couple of times and didn't see it or didn't know what I was seeing. Guess I need to take the bike down to Glencoe and see what if I can find the barge/loco the picture I posted said it was at Glencoe which is where the little steam railrod is located.
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bulldog wrote:This is the barge/locomotive

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20


This is the barge upstream from HWY 44

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38 ... i&t=h&z=20

I hope this works.
These links answer a lot! That's awesome! Love stuff like this.
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Went on a barge hunt today, after walking 3+ miles I discovered the one I was looking for was right across the rivers from where I started at Emmenager Conservation Area which is right at I44 & the Meramec river.

Also found what appears to be a wooden barge or very large dock on the east side about 200 yards north of I44 on the east side.

The steel barge on the west side is a strange vessel had a 2 inch concrete deck on top of it. So I wouldn't think that it's a normal cargo barge or at least not in it last state.

Took some interesting pictures of stuff I found but it's to many and they are way to big to post here so here's a link to the barge photos
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Gramps50 wrote:Went on a barge hunt today, after walking 3+ miles I discovered the one I was looking for was right across the rivers from where I started at Emmenager Conservation Area which is right at I44 & the Meramec river.

Also found what appears to be a wooden barge or very large dock on the east side about 200 yards north of I44 on the east side.

The steel barge on the west side is a strange vessel had a 2 inch concrete deck on top of it. So I wouldn't think that it's a normal cargo barge or at least not in it last state.

Took some interesting pictures of stuff I found but it's to many and they are way to big to post here so here's a link to the barge photos

Cool photos - thanks for sharing!!
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Nice pics. Here I am in Mexico and the only place I want to be is on my tin running that part of the river.

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bulldog wrote:Nice pics. Here I am in Mexico and the only place I want to be is on my tin running that part of the river.
That part of the river doesn't have much water in it right now. There were a couple of small tins and a 16' with a jet running around but that was about it. I was surprised how peaceful it was up there. Figured it would be full of jet skiers but you could actually fish up there without being hassled, I wasn't but some others were. There's suppose to be some big cat holes up in there.

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bulldog wrote:Nice pics. Here I am in Mexico and the only place I want to be is on my tin running that part of the river.
Sorry didn't mean to make you home sick!! :P

That part of the river doesn't have much water in it right now. There were a couple of small tins and a 16' with a jet running around but that was about it. I was surprised how peaceful it was up there. Figured it would be full of jet skiers but you could actually fish up there without being hassled, I wasn't but some others were. There's suppose to be some big cat holes up in there.

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