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Re: Dinovite experiment

Post by Jim » 30 Oct 2014, 07:54

Week 2
Still scratching, not as bad as before. Chest is whiter. I did clean his ears which were dirty, but for sure he does not smell as bad as he did before. He is the kind of dog you give a bath to, and the next day he smells like a wet dog. Now he does not smell. I am wondering if it's the Dinovite helping with this.
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Post by Captain Ahab » 30 Oct 2014, 15:15

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Post by CalBlackSheep » 31 Oct 2014, 02:43

Great thread. I'm looking forward to more updates. Hope you figure it out.

How old is your pooch? My 2 year old boxer/pit used to get real bad hives when she was younger. We never really figured out what caused it because we got rid of all the suspects at once. I will say that one good change was switching her food to Fromm.
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Post by Jim » 31 Oct 2014, 08:07

Zorba is 8 years old, Bella is about 3 (rescue) so not 100% sure.

We switched his food to what Bella eats now which is Wegmans simply nature brand of dog food.
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Post by DocWatson » 03 Nov 2014, 11:02

Jim wrote:Update #1
Things were looking better, it even seems he has more energy. I got home last night and there was a setback. The picture does not show it well, but Zorba scratched his upper chest area until it was raw and he is scratching the side of his head. We gave him 2 Benadryl.
Hey Jim, sorry to hear your buddy is suffering. I'm sure you've seen this article already but, on the off chance that you haven't, take a look. It's a pretty comprehensive piece about the causes of dogs biting, scratching and licking themselves raw. Hope it provides some insight or direction.
https://www.petmd.com/dog/general-health ... e_and_lick

You also might look into immune disorders and hormonal imbalance as causes.
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Post by Jim » 07 Nov 2014, 08:12

Thanks Doc! Very helpful article

Week 3 report

More of the same. Every time he gets up, the right rear leg goes up and he scratches into the air. I feel so bad, that I scratch for him. I gave him a bath in some specialty hydrocortisone type dog shampoo, but that did nothing if not made it worse.

The Dinovite for sure has given him more energy, and has made him a regular consistent poop factory. Now he craps solidly 4 times per day.
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Post by TNtroller » 08 Nov 2014, 22:49

Welcome to the world of allergy's for dogs. I have a 7 y/o female boxer (Roxy) who is on allergy shots 3x/week. For the 1st two yrs of her life we fed her WM brand dog food after the Purina Puppy Chow, and she was very healthy but a pooping machine LOL. WM stopped selling their brand when the dog food scare came about several yrs ago, so we started trying different brands and things went downhill from there. She started having red welps or blood blisters, sometimes large pimples all over her body, but did not ever scratch them, they just looked horrible and made some nasty messes.

Finally went to a "dog allergiest", a local vet who specializes in dog allergies, and they did some testing, similar to those for human. Roxy is allergic to grass, cedar, most pollen dust known to man, grains in dog food, etc., so she gets shots of a serum specific for her, just like a human, along with some pills to help fight yeast infections on her skin. She seldom has UTI's, the yeast infections on her skin are one of the causes of the welps/blisters I mentioned. The pills are utilized only when needed but the shots are done every 3 days. We also use some medicated shampoo from the "allergist" but Roxy does not need baths all that much, but she enjoys a good bath whenever she does need one.

We also use a mix of Listerine and water in a spray bottle to spray her feet after we wipe them down with wet wipes after she is walked. She is walked several times a day, so. We also feed her "4Health" brand dog food available at Tractor Supply here in TN, the whitefish and potato flavor. She does not like the Salmon flavor. They have several different flavors but the "allergist" recommended the fish to avoid additional allergic reactions to meat, etc., this brand is grain free and runs about $35-40/ for a ~30lb bag.

If the dogs bedding has cedar shaving inside it, get a foam filled one or try a blanket/sheet, this one move helped a tremendous amount for Roxy as sleeping/laying on it so much just defeated a lot of our efforts. I even keep Roxy away from the 4 or 5 cedar trees the line our property lines. She does have flair ups, but with the meds, she recovers much quicker, its not cheap, but Roxy is a member of our family, so she gets some pretty good medical care when needed.

Google vets specializing in allergies or similar and see if there is one close to you. It's not cheap, but it could end or reduce your dogs suffering, and yours as well. GL and hope your boxer gets better.

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Post by Jim » 14 Nov 2014, 10:26

week #4 Update

Nothing really new to report. He is still scratching and his chest is a full shade of Pink along with his undersides near his back legs. :(
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Post by Jim » 19 Jan 2015, 09:57

Save your money. :LOL2: Dinovite did not help one bit.

Poor Zorba, we are going to take him to a specialist. He has a few years left and don't want him suffering until then. :cry:
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Post by lovedr79 » 20 Jan 2015, 16:31

talked to my buddy over christmas, he was going to give me what he had left over as it did not work for his dog. i thought he said it was working but apprently it stopped. :(
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Post by DuraCraft » 27 Jan 2015, 11:42

Oh me Jim, sorry to read about poor Zorba. Our mix chocolate lab/pit bull is fed that Blue Buffalo food and does better on it than anything. Except it is noted for making bad breath! She doesn't have allergies, but I have wondered about that dinovite mess. Reckon we know now.

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Post by Jim » 27 Jan 2015, 13:15

Still the same. Baths every other day help the scratching though.
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Post by Tigerhunter » 16 Feb 2015, 21:59

We have a 6-1/2 year old female boxer who has had very similar issues..... Itchy paws, ears, skin... you name it. Chronic ear infections which put her on steroids and antibiotics for the first two years of her life almost constantly.

After thousands of dollars spent at the vet, we have her pretty well figured out. The very expensive allergy testing revealed that she is allergic to grass and all types of mites (food, dust, etc.). This is made apparent as in the summertime her paws bother her noticeably more than in our NY winters.

She takes 3 Benadryl in the morning and 3 Benadryl in the evening. She has been doing this for probably 4-5 years now without much of a side affect if any (other than being sleepy if nothing is going on, still plenty of energy when she wants to play).

Another huge factor is the food. Many have mentioned checking the ingredients which is very important. We started on the Royal Canin boxer formula (which at the time I thought was pricey), then once we noticed she was itchy we switched to purina pro plan sensitive skin and stomach. Once we did the allergy testing we were prescribed Hills Z/D. This seems to help tremendously. You need a prescription an it runs anywhere from $90-100 for a 25 lb bag. We use an online service with autoship that ships it at an interval you pick for free. With random discounts it runs $85-90 delivered to our door (we live 30 minutes from our vet). They also make treats in this low-allergen formula. When we first started her on this we were feeding her 3-4 cups per meal and she was still losing weight. After concurring with the vet, we now give her 2 cups each meal along with a hard boiled egg to help her keep her weight steady ~65 lbs. A side note is that we do not allow either of our boxers human food, mostly stemming from allergies and dog scuffles. I feel this is very important for the dogs health, especially if it has severe allergy issues (like I think this case is). Another side note, we give her a fish oil pull with her dinner which helps keep her coat a little more shiny and not as dry.

As far as "external" care. Summertime we have prescription wipes for after she is outside.... We slack on this but it does seem to help a little. Bathing- we have (you guessed it!) prescription shampoo where you lather it up and let it sit for 15 minutes. This seemed to help quite a bit, especially if we stay on top of a regular bath routine.

She gets chronic ear infections, partly do to her allergies. We have ear cleaner from the vet (not prescription but ~$40 a bottle) that we use to clean her ears at least once a week, knock on wood- we have done well with this the last year or so.

A lot of products off the shelf at pet stores and big box stores tend to have lta of chemicals and fragrances in it that can be very irratable to sensitive skin (this is true across the board for animals and humans). A lot of the advertising is misleading if you actually look at the ingredients and the order of them. With how sensitive your pup is, double check your shampoo to see what's in it. I know we had some oatmeal/chamomile at first that looked good but it turned out that those were the scents and there wasn't anything "soothing/calming" in the shampoo. Typically, "you get what you pay for" plays in here too.

I am sure that I missed some stuff but the food, Benadryl and shampoo are life savers for our dog. Side note- I bought this purebred boxer at 6-8 weeks old and have spent thousands at the vet and on food. We rescued a deaf white boxer a few years ago and she hasn't cost us a dime besides checkups and vaccines. Her food is $30 for 35 lbs, main ingredient lamb or chicken (alternate flavors). We figure if we take the average of the two dogs then we have two medium "priced" dogs....lol!

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Post by Tigerhunter » 16 Feb 2015, 22:00

Nice looking pup by the way- ours is a brindle too!

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Post by Jim » 16 Feb 2015, 22:03

Thanks for the info!

I was starting to assume it was the grass and now I think it is dust(ashes)……from the fireplace insert? We open the door to add wood and some ashes fly out. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
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